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Stop and go versus pre-flop shove

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George2Loose:
they"re too commonplace these days 2 be effective I prefer to shove or fold. If u have 88 and the button opens surely u want to shove if you think you"re ahead of their range?

Roscopiko:
I think the main difference is hand strength and stack size.

With 10BB or less you cant really stop and go effectively as your fold equity is pretty much gone so i would reshove but u would have to a hand you are happy to go to showdown with on occasion, ie 89 over A2 every time.

Stop and go allows you to play atc and abuse the nitty who will fold post flop but not pre. I think you need more than 10bb to make this a winning play tho.

George2Loose:
You may reduce variance but I think you can lose equity.

I don"t like the stop and go as a play.

Swinebag:
I personally prefer the shove but can see the merits of stop and going.
I agree with george about reducing variance and equity too.

AMRN:
how many times have you found yourself in the blinds with a pocket pair, and re-raised all in only to be called by the mid-position raiser"s AK..... then you survive the flop, but see an A/K on the turn or river........    well at least by playing the Stop and Go move instead of the re-raise all in preflop, you increase your chances of your pair standing up against the overcards - he only has 3 cards to hit instead of all 5.

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