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NO SNOW - 2 a.m. finishes ... Structure!?
AMRN:
--- Quote from: waltypies on February 09, 2009, 23:45:02 PM ---
I have not read ANY of the posts below so i am sorry if i may have repeated anything from anybody.
The main reason for the late finishing time was basically the amount of people down to the last 30-40 not being able to play a short stack. There were no risks taken which should have been taken and no one grabbed the game by the balls one bit. If someone decided to do that the game would have been over ALOT quicker.
I am not ****ting on anyones play but it really was like watching paint dry the amount of SUPER "tight" play near the end.
However i personally put this down to the standard of tournament poker at the moment.
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Interesting post. Out of interest, how far did you get?
WarBwastardo:
--- Quote from: waltypies on February 09, 2009, 23:45:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on February 09, 2009, 16:41:00 PM ---
... it seems like a crazy time to be finishing on a Sunday night ...
Structure to be tweaked ... if there are 200 runners needs more of a twist I think.
I would be keen to kick antes in quicker ... only way to induce early action with "rocks" getting eaten away.
Various other threads have eluded to the fact this was a one off ... but it looked like a late late finish from very early on.
It must have affected some players needing to get home etc ...
I look forward to thoughts.
Louis
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I have not read ANY of the posts below so i am sorry if i may have repeated anything from anybody.
The main reason for the late finishing time was basically the amount of people down to the last 30-40 not being able to play a short stack. There were no risks taken which should have been taken and no one grabbed the game by the balls one bit. If someone decided to do that the game would have been over ALOT quicker.
I am not ****ting on anyones play but it really was like watching paint dry the amount of SUPER "tight" play near the end.
However i personally put this down to the standard of tournament poker at the moment.
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You are actually ****ting on people"s play aren"t you. That"s the whole point of your post. Fair enough, but it is an amateur game isn"t it..so it"s not unreasonable for people to either not necessarily know how to play a short stack or to decide to let their chips bleed away just so they could stay in the tournament for as long as possible and make the experience last. Perhaps they weren"t having the enjoyment of railers as their priority.
WASP:
--- Quote from: waltypies on February 09, 2009, 23:45:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Honeybadg on February 09, 2009, 16:41:00 PM ---
... it seems like a crazy time to be finishing on a Sunday night ...
Structure to be tweaked ... if there are 200 runners needs more of a twist I think.
I would be keen to kick antes in quicker ... only way to induce early action with "rocks" getting eaten away.
Various other threads have eluded to the fact this was a one off ... but it looked like a late late finish from very early on.
It must have affected some players needing to get home etc ...
I look forward to thoughts.
Louis
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I have not read ANY of the posts below so i am sorry if i may have repeated anything from anybody.
The main reason for the late finishing time was basically the amount of people down to the last 30-40 not being able to play a short stack. There were no risks taken which should have been taken and no one grabbed the game by the balls one bit. If someone decided to do that the game would have been over ALOT quicker.
I am not ****ting on anyones play but it really was like watching paint dry the amount of SUPER "tight" play near the end.
However i personally put this down to the standard of tournament poker at the moment.
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Like your opinion counts for anything ::)
The way you have behaved on countless forums over the years I don"t think New Zealand is far enough for you.
Bye!
treydj:
--- Quote from: AMRN on February 09, 2009, 17:38:29 PM ---
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One other thing to take a look at is the sizing of the antes. In some levels the ratio of ante to small blind was 10:1.... I think the highest I saw it was 6:1. If the antes were just slightly larger and running between 4:1 and 6:1, the pots would have been more attractive for stealing, and would have induced more play (and stopped all that silly passive folding when down to the lasst three :) )
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+1 - i agree antes need to be pitched according to SB and BB levels - one minute they are attractive and induce play, the next not worth it. a consistent 4:1 or 5:1 seems about right
gatso:
structure was superb and only needs a little tweaking to give a sensible finish time. this should do it imo
- increase antes on levels 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 18. the others are spot on
- extra level at end of saturday, ideally 2
- do not break any tables until field is at 171. then go to 9 handed tables. this will make for a better game as well as getting in more orbits speeding up the tourney
combine these with not having a huge break pre final table and the structure should work really well
the split dinner break will also make a contribution though not a great one. having 2x45 minutes staggered as opposed to 1x60minutes only saves 15 minutes overall
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