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Killer hand in $2.5m G'tee - Comments ...

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Mikeyboy9361:
What George said is probs the premium move, but I would probs have done the same as you cos I,m not as good as him :D
Then having done what you did, the rest of the hand pretty much played itself, good run though.

Honeybadg:
... I just had a good chat about this to one of my mates who used to play in my London home game ... 10 years more experience than me ... has cashed at WSOP etc ...

He thought about this for a while and said he would fold the jacks ... (and has done in similar positions) ... his best win is c$40k ... this was the last thing on my mind at the time ... but I think it does make sense ... no risk ... (and at the time no risk required) ... wait for a spot to make the running or for a bigger hand.

The 7000-8000 raise gets you into a lot of trouble if re-raised ... do you just throw it away?

Once the hand is running I am dead! (we agreed on that!)

Interestingly we went on to discuss QQ as a starting hand ... at which point he was still marginal but in the end went for the 7000-8000 bet ...

KK happy with either 8000ish or all in ...

Pretty hard to fold JJ there but good to hear that a very experienced player has done and would do it in that situation.

Interested in further comments on this ...

Louis

George2Loose:
So you"re gonna wait for aces to play this guy?

His stack is huge therefore his opening range is a lot wider, even from utg.

He"s probably opening with all pocket pairs, Probably Ak, AQ, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ etc etc etc

If he"s really tricky he"ll even open with suited connectors out of this stack.

Honeybadg:
... I totally agree he has very loose starting criteria ... but if I raise to 7200 he is going to call me I think ...

I was very much siding with going all in on reflection ... so the fold school of thought was not even in my head ... it is not what I expected to hear at all.

Not a case of waiting for Aces ... more that I have an awkward size of chip stack to get involved with.

If smaller a trivial all in ... if large I am happy to call or raise to 7000-8000 and deal with the overcards.

Aside - if re-raised - do you fold or call (would have c11,800 left)

As it happens the flop is going to very likely kill me whatever I do ...

I am sure very few people would fold there ... but a very good player with form would/has ... so I thought an interesting one to flag up ...

L

George2Loose:
Nope I get it in against this villian.

If he is a good player there"s NO WAY he flats- he either shoves/folds

He may flat if he has you crushed but doubtful.

My personal preference is this spot is:

Raise/Call/Fold

If your gonna call you shouldn"t go broke on the 832 flop- surely you"re calling cos you perhaps have him on an overpair so if you shove the flop you"ve turned the hand into a total bluff.

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