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Honeybadg:

--- Quote from: deanp27 on April 01, 2009, 14:25:39 PM ---
how many players flop a flush and overshove the pot?

he may do this with 910o but most likely top pair, 2 pair or a big draw/combo (he could even have total air if he is a maniac)

the raise size is perfect, overraising as suggested above is terrible tournament play for a million reasons, now do the right thing and call.

even if you are currently beat you will have c30% equity in the pot for a redraw(cos he never has QQ here).

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I will be very interested in what "he" did have ... let"s have some of these million reasons ...

If you are putting the 3000 in with a view to folding any re-raise against an active player then you are going to give him a lot of chips late stages ... you might have position but what are you going to do with that with overcards on the board ... do you seriously want called ... kill it and move on ...

L

Swinebag:
I gave one reason - your steals will not be profitable enough in the long run

another could be that you fold out worse hands and tend to get reraised by only stronger hands. Do you really want to fold after putting in more than 20% of your stack?



deanp27:
you should make a standard raise irrespective of holding, otherwise you become readable and exploitable. Getting JJ and just hoping everyone folds makes no sense - you have 4/5th best hand yet you want to price all other players out - you may as well be bluffing/stealing.

raising 2.5bb as opposed to 5bb means you can raise more often, it is more profitable and less exploitable. Raise/folding 2.5bb with your weaker holdings is easier/more profitable than it would be with a 5bb raise. Also smaller raises make restealing less profitable for your opponents.

there are a few reasons why opening for 5bb is bad. i can think of a few more.

Basically in relation to this hand, the opening raise is good, the flop is good, he has a wide range that you beat = gogogogo

noble1:
Fascinating how most perceive the opponents hand range here........
All i will i say is if you flop a flush in a similar situation to this against players who think like you ,then would a over bet of the pot be the best line? most would not put you on a flush.. ;D

deanp27:

--- Quote from: noble1 on April 01, 2009, 15:25:59 PM ---
Fascinating how most perceive the opponents hand range here........
All i will i say is if you flop a flush in a similar situation to this against players who think like you ,then would a over bet of the pot be the best line? most would not put you on a flush.. ;D



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agreed but may only work if your opponent has flopped a set..... :)

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