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Honesty at the table??
undisputed:
--- Quote from: JOKER_IRVINE on July 20, 2009, 15:02:27 PM ---
hey mate yeah feel like honesty is the best policy but guess not in this case must have been clearly obvious to the player that after throwing in a 5K chip getting 8750 back would seem a little fishy ???
something happened at my table two people in the pot flop comes
Q,J,10 two are hearts player A leads out player B calls.
Turn brings a 3 no heart player A check raises player B and gets called
River a 9 no heart still both players check
player A states i was chasing the flush showing 8,2 hearts
Player B states i knew that showing Q,10 for two pair
player B starts to collect the chips just as i point out that player A still has a straight
player B starts shouting and swearing at me saying i have nothing to do with the hand. I politly reply i just thought the cards spoke for there selves the dealer then said i was right appologizing to player B for not noticing the straight. player B eventually surrenders the chips to player A but still continues to call me a F*****G PRICK saying i was completely out of order. myslef thinking i hadn"t even done anything wrong appoligised for the sake of making things better at the table but he would not except continuing to mutter prick i say to the dealer that this is my first APAT and that i thought we were supposed to make this enjoyable for everyone ::) the dealer agreed and asked him to watch his language.
Dindnt think i did anything wrong ??? besides that the event was enjoyable had a really good time and congrats to the winner :D
:as: kh
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Ok...agreed, firstly i will apologise, but but had had too many slip ups from players...and the dealer up to this point in what is usually a structured and organised game. And just to point out, that you may remember, the very next hand, after calling a river bet i was just shown the Q of spades, which i was beating, only to then be shown the 8c about 15 seconds later for the rivered str8. . . after this slowroll, straight after the aforementioned incident, i sorta lost the plot. . . hope it isn"t taken personally. . . ;) ;) I may consider having the odd lemonade between drinks in future, but as you may remember, it wasn"t just the one incident, but several. . .and as well as people conducting themselves in a reasonable manner, i also believe correct poker etiquette should be adhered to, which really wasn"t the case. . . .
Mikeyboy9361:
We are talking APAT here, and I can"t believe either incident wasn"t sorted amicably. In the first incident with the wrong change given amounting to 8K in chips, to me not declaring the error is tantamount to cheating. And in the other incident I have played in many a tournament when the dealer has mis read the winning hand and one of the other players has put them right. In fact Neil that happened in Walsall on our table, and no one said anything un toward. This type of behaviour goes against everything that APAT stands for IMO.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Jon MW on July 20, 2009, 16:22:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paulie_D on July 20, 2009, 16:10:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 20, 2009, 15:56:56 PM ---
A showdown is a showdown - and the best hand wins. There is no rule that says it"s up to the players involved and the dealer to decide which is the best hand!! If someone else at the table (or even someone railing!) notices that the other hand makes a straight and points it out, that is perfectly acceptable and reasonable. There is no requirement on a player to declare the value of his hand at showdown.
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In tournaments only...
At a cash table...never unless I"m involved in the hand at showdown!
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I suspect that will be the common consensus
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well yes, but then the thread is talking about a specific tournament situation
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on July 20, 2009, 16:28:09 PM ---
We are talking APAT here, and I can"t believe either incident wasn"t sorted amicably. In the first incident with the wrong change given amounting to 8K in chips, to me not declaring the error is tantamount to cheating. And in the other incident I have played in many a tournament when the dealer has mis read the winning hand and one of the other players has put them right. In fact Neil that happened in Walsall on our table, and no one said anything un toward. This type of behaviour goes against everything that APAT stands for IMO.
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Spot on - it"s one thing to utilise circumstances to create an edge in a cash game, or even in a standard poker tourney, but APAT is about all of the good things in poker and for many players it is an introduction to live play. As a set of "APAT players" it"s up to ALL of us to make it a great tour to play, and to make sure the events will keep new players interested in the game, and help them to learn all the good things about live poker etiquette.
Glorious:
In every cardroom I"ve played the tourney rules state that the "cards speak" - tbh, I still can"t get over someone sitting in a tourney with (loads of) chips they know they shouldn"t have "cos the dealer pushed them too much change ???
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