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Biggish early hand at Euro's - thoughts please?
deanp27:
calling is not always weakness
George2Loose:
You should have a plan before you raise. If you are raising in this spot, you should get it in imo.
Personally I would call here too.
AMRN:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on November 23, 2009, 20:21:43 PM ---
You should have a plan before you raise. If you are raising in this spot, you should get it in imo.
Personally I would call here too.
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I made a crying call simply because the odds were right, and I would still have a playable 45xBB stack if I lost. He tabled qc ts !!! I had 15 outs and was a 60/40 favourite. The turn was a 5 to give me even more more outs, but the river bricked.
When I raised on the flop, I was kinda sure that he was going to fold to a decent raise - but you are right that I should have had a plan in place..... and then I would have realised that by sizing the raise way I did, I would never be able to fold to a shove. I should have raised much smaller and given myself the option to fold to a shove.
One of those times where I wish I could resist playing the button in an unopened pot!! lol
Roscopiko:
Why do you want to take the small pot down on the flop? Take a bigger pot down on later streets imo.
You are heads up and have position with playable stacks, by checking here you not only control the pot size now but for the rest of the hand. You hand isn"t weak on this flop and there are so many scare cards you can represent if you have an atc image that floating here must be correct imo.
noble1:
--- Quote from: AMRN on November 24, 2009, 09:46:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: George2Loose on November 23, 2009, 20:21:43 PM ---
You should have a plan before you raise. If you are raising in this spot, you should get it in imo.
Personally I would call here too.
--- End quote ---
I made a crying call simply because the odds were right, and I would still have a playable 45xBB stack if I lost. He tabled qc ts !!! I had 15 outs and was a 60/40 favourite. The turn was a 5 to give me even more more outs, but the river bricked.
When I raised on the flop, I was kinda sure that he was going to fold to a decent raise - but you are right that I should have had a plan in place..... and then I would have realised that by sizing the raise way I did, I would never be able to fold to a shove. I should have raised much smaller and given myself the option to fold to a shove.
One of those times where I wish I could resist playing the button in an unopened pot!! lol
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meh rr flop ok ish if you fold to a 3bet all in then you are still deep enough to balance out your range [with what looks like semi-bluff raises that u have been seen/can fold which observant players may try to exploit later] with your sets,over pairs,2 pairs etc on 2 suited flops.. 2to1 with an jack FD and a decent stack behind i can find a fold here,but not with a nut flush draw if we had it in this situation and reads..
Floating to steal/take the pot on the turn or river is an option and again you can balance out later if the hand is shown down..
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