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Biggish early hand at Euro's - thoughts please?

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lukybugur:
With no info on the player or against an erratic player with a shorter stack, small-ball FTW, especially in position. With a shove after the donk-bet, I"d give him credit for a hand. If you can put him on AXd, trips or AA, KK with a Diamond in his hand what IYO would be the best play now?

Would I raise with a plan of calling off 9k (half my chips) at the 100/200 level with a J high flush draw? No

Now with 2:1 odds on the call, would I call off 5k more against a range of AXd, AA, KK, 77, 66, 22? Prob not.

LongshanksED:
I"d have flat called on the flop to see what came. You have a huge drawing hand but keep the pot small so you don"t have to be out to these tough decisions. If turn bricks out then his bet size would determine if Im carrying on in the hand. Apat are relatively deep stack events and I"d rather lose 500 chips and a couple of BBs chasing the draw (with position) than just get it all in

if this was an online tourny where the starting stacks are alot smaller and less room to play I"d call the all in but in such a deep stack play I"d give up to his shove. His bet looks like a bet he wants called IMO. He probably has a high pair or maybe a set and your raise is giving him the chance to get it in thinking he"s gonna get more chips

Claw75:
I flat the flop bet here too and see what happens on the turn. Miss anything that improves our hand and I"m happy to let this go if he fires out again on the turn.

WYoung83:
When he leads out for this "strange bet" on the flop, i would of just peeled one off for the turn, to either hit somthing or just float him. But to answer your question.....its a fairly easy call for me steve. Mathmatically its close, but i would call.

Would he lead out with flopped set? doubt it as he is more likely to check-raise rather than lead out. Would he hold an over pair? doubt it, seems like he may of repoped pre flop from the SB (especially depending on the fact he called quick) i think he would of taken a bit more time with QQ for example.

His possible hands here are 4-5 or 8-9 or  maybe another flushdraw, and you are only in bad shape to 3 other flush draws.  if he did happen to have 2 pair, or a set. Then you have 8 outs for the non pair flush which means you need 32% winning chance to call, and you had around 33-35% with what the pot is offering. A cash game player like Durrrr or Ziigmund would kill for this price :)

What happened in the end, did you call?

AMRN:

--- Quote from: WYoung83 on November 23, 2009, 18:28:40 PM ---
What happened in the end, did you call?

--- End quote ---


I"ll leave it a bit longer before I answer.

Reason I didn"t flat call was that I didn"t want to show weakness - the way I had been playing so far in the tourney, a flat call would have exposed the weakness of my hand and I was sure to have been facing another bet on the turn... and would I then call again? Too fishy for me... I wanted to take the hand down at this point, and needed to put the pressure on the other guy.  On reflection, my raise was too big as it meant I was unable to get away from the shove - I should have raised smaller to give me the folding option.

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