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Button push in a MTT

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AMRN:
no problem with your pushing range being massively wide in this spot, but you have to take into account that he is pot committed, and in the same way that you should shove ATC, he is likely to call ATC.

shozboy1:
That was my mistake - he didn"t have 5BBs, but 20BBs behind. Hence he wasn"t committed to call at all.

noble1:

--- Quote from: AMRN on January 25, 2010, 14:48:25 PM ---
no problem with your pushing range being massively wide in this spot, but you have to take into account that he is pot committed, and in the same way that you should shove ATC, he is likely to call ATC.



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if u know he calls ATC then i fold 74o but thats my nitty style :)   i only do this because if i knew he calls ATC even though
against a random hand 74o is 35% to win and with a pot of 1350 although cEV+ to push ATC it is really marginal , about 0.9 of a bb +ev :).. so if villain calls ATC i"d prefer to push the top 70% of my range as i know i"d be the favourite over a random hand [sometimes tighter,depending on villains/table dynamics etc]... but thats my preference :)  Yes shoz ATC shove is cEV+ here as is calling Q8o if villain thinks u are pushing really wide ,  me personally if i know a villain is pushing ATC then i call my top 50% [and yes Q8o is in there] ;D

shozboy1:
I understand Noble, but isn"t the other guy terrible for calling/putting at risk half his recently accumulated stack with Q8o given I"ve been tight (card dead)? He, at best, is 2-1 fav (ok he actually was 2-1 but he can"t know that). Seems not a great spot to put half your stack in especially as he"d just got it back up to 20BBs?

p.s what about my original question of showing pocket 10s to preserve my image to get him to fold such a marginal hand and preserve my tight image?

noble1:
Q8o fine if he thinks u push wide . his pot equity is 42% , if say he said u thought u"d push ure top 25% then yes bad call..
Its all on reads,villain calling range,there style etc etc  learn and adjust to it  :)


--- Quote ---p.s what about my original question of showing pocket 10s to preserve my image to get him to fold such a marginal hand and preserve my tight image?
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if i want action i do not show , if i show, i do it so i can steal the next time i shove with trash :)

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