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daveyb147:

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--- Quote from: BOINGBLITZ on March 12, 2010, 15:18:51 PM ---
Interesting replies. The fact that my chips are on show means that the player surely can count them without the help of the dealer ?
I was quite surprised when the dealer reached over to the chips as I have never seen this happen before.

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chips on show is one thing, but a player has the right to know exactly how much you"re holding, right down to the last chip....  that said, the dealer should never do anything here unless specifically requested to do so.

On a similar note, the rule that bugs me is that the dealer is not allowed to count down the pot - we have to figure out a value by counting..... don"t have to put up with that online! :)


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 agree with the bug,,,can only speed things up surely ???

LongshanksED:
Now while this isnt gospal and is on a tangent to whats bring discussed

I currently read harrington on cash pt2 and in a section he briefly goes off into table talk, tells and mannerisms

he cited a point that when an opponent asks how much you have, to prevent giving anything away with your hand movements or voice you should just point at your chips and let the dealer count them for you!  

Good enough for fan, good enough for me

Cyntaf:
Was he asking you personally Brian, or was it directed at the dealer, doesn"t matter really. If you choose not to reply, IMO the dealer took charge and made the count for your oppo"s answer. Otherwise the table could stagnate waiting for a reply, you looking at him/him looking at you.

The guy may have poor eyesight etc. I"ve never played at a table where the the dealer can"t touch chips without asking? If he can"t be trusted, well there"s no hope for any of us.

With regards to lying about your stack size, i can"t see this being ethical at all. Would be similar to announcing all in and getting called, only to bet the pot on the next street? WTF. Unlike cards, this is open information, for which the enquirer must be given a truthful answer, aside from joking 26k when he obviously has about 2.5/3k.

On the subject of honesty, ( Friday nigh in B/Head) a young lad brought up the ept Blag, and asked what about chipstacks? Say you had 10k, you could come back and say you had 30k??? After the tables were picked up etc.. I replied most "Poker Players" wouldn"t consider this. I didn"t bother to explain that in the ept most players would know from hand to hand just what yours and everyone elses chipstacks were, at least approx. He completely missed my point about most people are honest, and again asked, well how would they know? Duh! Or am i too naiave or honest for my own good?

BOINGBLITZ:
Some very interesting answers here guys, so obviously it is a grey area for most of us.
The only reason I  originally asked the question was that I had never seen this happen before to a player who was not all-in. I don"t disagree with the dealer doing it, I was just wondering was it actually allowed at all !
As to your question about do I not want to give away information by answering the question, then No I do not. I rarely answer the question "How many chips do you have behind?". That is just a personal preference that works for me, like shades and a cap. That way, nobody knows who I am.......till I speak !!

MintTrav:
If I ever ask about your chips, just give me a clear view or a rough total. For some reason, people start counting it out to the last chip, which has no effect on whether I bet into them.



--- Quote from: Cyntaf on March 14, 2010, 16:01:09 PM ---
Would be similar to announcing all in and getting called, only to bet the pot on the next street? WTF.

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Eh? How does that work?

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