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Live APAT hand which has been bugging me
AMRN:
also remember, before you make any action, have a plan for how you will respond to subsequent actions from others. If you are wanting to get all in here with AQs and a 21xBB stack (I certainly would), you would insta-call the shove(s). It sounds like you saw a big hand so made an auto raise, without really thinking about what happens next (hence why you are asking the question). If your plan was to try and steal but then fold to a shove, 2.5x is much cheaper..... but then also you would be turning a premium hand into a bluff.
My line here would probably have been min-raise (or min plus a chip), and hope that either of the blinds senses weakness and 3-bets so I can get all in.
noble1:
Phil if u read that villains in the blinds will only shove tight top 5% then raise a lot less because they will be folding 90% of the time [.95x.95= 90%] then if the sb shoves then to quote AMRN
--- Quote ---If so, then it"s an easy fold
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If the sb folds but the bb shoves its a call [ur priced in] , the fact u make it 4x with this stack size pretty much puts your hand face up , medium pairs 88-JJ AK AQ would be a logical most likely range to put u on , sorry but tbh this is a typical tight weak players preflop range that 4x"s.. As played now that sb shoves and bb calls , with a 12600 ish pot its 5400 to call , so ur getting 2.3to1 ish , so 30% equity , if u think they are tight and that they will view your 4x raise as i would then its a fold..
If u think the bb has no idea after seeing this action and will gamble with a range wider than his top 10% then call..
jbworldwide:
--- Quote from: PHIL_TC on July 13, 2010, 15:01:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 13, 2010, 14:53:20 PM ---
yuck.
What was your plan when you made the raise? a 4xBB opener is huge (and spewy) if you are planning to fold to a shove.
You state the SB shover with 7k as being tight - by "tight", do you mean he only plays top 5% of hands? If so, then it"s an easy fold..... or do you actually mean "good", in which case it"s an easy call, given that his resteal range will be pretty wide against your button raise.
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My thoughts were to take it down there and then with a large raise. Feared that a small button raise wouldnt be respected so decided on a 4x.
The "tight" is I believe a mod on here so not sure if that means they"re "good" or not ;)
Hasnt played any hands but yes would put him as a good player.
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I wouldn"t say he was good, I would say he is solid ;D
and I wonder if anyone can guess what the hand in the sb was?
pables:
I knew it was you James, when the word tight was mentioned ;D ::)
AMRN:
--- Quote from: jbworldwide on July 13, 2010, 21:13:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: PHIL_TC on July 13, 2010, 15:01:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: AMRN on July 13, 2010, 14:53:20 PM ---
yuck.
What was your plan when you made the raise? a 4xBB opener is huge (and spewy) if you are planning to fold to a shove.
You state the SB shover with 7k as being tight - by "tight", do you mean he only plays top 5% of hands? If so, then it"s an easy fold..... or do you actually mean "good", in which case it"s an easy call, given that his resteal range will be pretty wide against your button raise.
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My thoughts were to take it down there and then with a large raise. Feared that a small button raise wouldnt be respected so decided on a 4x.
The "tight" is I believe a mod on here so not sure if that means they"re "good" or not ;)
Hasnt played any hands but yes would put him as a good player.
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I wouldn"t say he was good, I would say he is solid ;D
and I wonder if anyone can guess what the hand in the sb was?
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OK so now we know who it was in the SB, the hand was obviously AK, or QQ+. Tight is the word!! (as is good)
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