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KK - Part III
Jon MW:
:D
4th Hand of APAT Scandinavian.
Mid posn raises 80 to 100
SB reraises up to 400
MP calls
Raggy unconnected flop.
SB checks
MP bets all in - approx 3500 into approx 800 pot.
What do you reckon the SB had?
And when will people ever learn?
George2Loose:
I would shove esp. in an APAT national. If he has AA fair play- however in a national I would probably see him turn over QQ, JJ a lot of the time and maybe even AK AQ or 10,10.
I won"t mention the person but in Luton I made a standard raise UTG with QQ- got re raised all in from the big blind- dwelled for ages, almost folded but ended up calling (fish) and for shown 10,10
At a higher standard of play I fold (no disrespect to anyone, we"re all amateurs here) tho I suspect a pro player may take a different line with AA.......
biffa85:
As I have stated previously in short stacked tournies with kk it"s an easy reraise preflop and then push to his rereraise, but in a deep stack tourny I would still reraise, but fold to his rereraise. Yes my reraise IS announcing my hand, but that does gain me information. In poker information is king! his rereraise in some respects is the mistake in the hand, as that announces his hand as likely to be AA and allows you to get away for only 1500-2000 chips.
In my defence this almost exact situation happened to me last night during second hour of play. I raised, was rerasied, I then rereraised with kk and they pushed - I folded and stayed in.
Any play that saved you from elimination - how can that be deemed incorrect? their reaction to your reraise helps you define their hand, allowing you to make the CORRECT play.
;D
George2Loose:
If you"re folding KK often in a tournament- I see it as -EV. In an aggressive game people are 3 betting with AK, AQ and often 99+
hi_am_chris:
It depends how greedy you wanna be in a deepstacked tourny, if you raise to 1500 maybe u just take down the pot but you also dont allow you opponent a cheap flop with a small pair or weakish ace to hit. On a flop of 2 7 10 how easy is it to fold your kings when if youd reraised you might have got rid of pocket 7"s. I still think even when you raise to 1500 you could get action from a lot of hands your beating but part of it depends on the quality of the field
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