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Hand from the team event.
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: SirPercival on October 29, 2011, 11:32:44 AM ---
The only people who should be entitled to call Phil Hellmuth a fish are those with a better record than him.
Great player IMO (also a very nice guy if you see past the showbiz image).
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Just to clarify Stuart, I"m not calling him a fish, though lots of respected players do just that. I see him more as an enigma tbh and suspect that while he is prone to some plays that are described as fishy and lacking advanced understanding, those weaknesses are abundantly compensated for by the stronger attributes of his game. That is the conundrum afaic.
What part/parts of PH"s game are responsible for those phenominal results?
As far as his record, it"s undeniably phenomenal tbh. But, is it possible that record is more the result of run good?
George2Loose:
--- Quote from: SirPercival on October 29, 2011, 11:32:44 AM ---
The only people who should be entitled to call Phil Hellmuth a fish are those with a better record than him.
Great player IMO (also a very nice guy if you see past the showbiz image).
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That"s ridic thing to say Stu. Course you can pass judgement. Not saying he can"t play but he won the majority of his stuff when the game was unsolved. And some of his play is terrible. Just because I haven"t got the silverware he has doesn"t mean I can"t give my 2 cents
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: George2Loose on October 29, 2011, 19:12:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: SirPercival on October 29, 2011, 11:32:44 AM ---
The only people who should be entitled to call Phil Hellmuth a fish are those with a better record than him.
Great player IMO (also a very nice guy if you see past the showbiz image).
--- End quote ---
That"s ridic thing to say Stu. Course you can pass judgement. Not saying he can"t play but he won the majority of his stuff when the game was unsolved. And some of his play is terrible. Just because I haven"t got the silverware he has doesn"t mean I can"t give my 2 cents
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I"m not saying people can"t give an opinion and of course some of his play is terrible, as is some of yours, and most of mine. ;D
I just think that the label of "fish" means he is a poor player which he isn"t. With regard his recent results is 3 2nd place finishes in WSOP events not enough to stop the "he was good 10 years ago" arguement?
BTW - his WSOPE Final table play was terrible.
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: SirPercival on October 29, 2011, 20:21:39 PM ---
I just think that the label of "fish" means he is a poor player which he isn"t. With regard his recent results is 3 2nd place finishes in WSOP events not enough to stop the "he was good 10 years ago" argument?
BTW - his WSOPE Final table play was terrible.
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I certainly didnt post this so we could discuss if PH is a fish. I will change that word in my post if you so wish :)
Was sorta hoping we could get beyond the "look at his results" or "He"s a dinosaur fish"
Anyone care to suggest some traits/skills of his we can call expert?
WYoung83:
Cant think of any skills of PH that are expert. But i do love watching him in televised cash games.
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