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How not to play JJ??

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lukybugur:
Agree with Kin - a check>raise on the flop is the best way of getting the info you need on this hand IMO

AMRN:
not necessarily. Preflop, given that the original raise was to 600, you would need to re-raise to around 1800 to get your info......   If you just call and check the flop, the UTG raiser could well bet the pot (1800) when checked to, so to check-raise you will need to pay out minimum 3600, plus your 600 preflop = 4200 - compared to a re-re-raise to 1800 preflop.  That said, clearly the AK is calling your preflop re-re-raise to see the flop, but is highly likely to play the flop a little slower given that you re-re-raised preflop.

Either way, JJ is just one of those horrible hands to play when someone raises before you - chuck them away :)

kinboshi:
If you re-raise pre-flop and get re-re-raised and that leads to you folding, then you"ve made a mistake as you"ve folded the best hand.

You don"t have any info - you"re up against AK (a hand you"re beating), and you end up laying it down?

REvans84:
Like Kinboshi said there is alot of play (Your M is 40) so I think the call pre flop is fine.
But being out of position I would mostly prefer to raise in this situation.
But you obviously have to mix up your play and if I decided to call this time I would be check raising that particular flop like Kinboshi too.

With you not raising pre flop the original raiser could think you have a worse ace or some such hand and with you leading out and him min raising you he actually might think he has the best hand and he has alot of outs going into the turn if you do call.
You don"t really know where you stand. Does he have something or does he just not believe you and is he making a move?

If you check, I would expect him to C bet and then I would put in a big re-raise with the 2 hearts out there.
If he calls I would be done with the hand.

George2Loose:
I don"t think there"s any right or wrong way to play this hand. The blinds are small and personally I would elect to flat call pre flop mainly due to the fact that I"m out of position and like to keep pots small when OOP esp when raise is from UTG.

The key to the flop is as follows:

If you lead the flop (as you did) and get re raised you SHOULD fold.

However the mini raise suggests the initial raiser has two overcards and a flush draw. If he had QQ, KK, AA usually players on this sort of board would raise big to protect there pair.

Personally I prefer the check/call option on the flop. Again I"m trying to keep the pot small as I"m unsure of the the villian has at this stage.

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