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How do we maximise value here?

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George2Loose:
Marty has it right. U wanna bet uber small to give the impression of F/E. In fact for balance I may even bluff like 18k here. So I would bet 18k in the hope of inducing or building a pot.

If villian smooth calls I may even check most non scary turns to set up a river shove or hopefully induce a turn bet.

TBH checking flop isnt too bad either because with stack sizes you dont need 3 streets of value

noble1:

--- Quote from: George2Loose on October 12, 2010, 18:27:33 PM ---
mouth is a she- Caroline cove

--- End quote ---


lol to be fair steve did write ""he"" in his post :) ...  now the question is Caroline ""very refined, a quiet and shy lady, who only ever goes in with the nuts.""  or is it ""does she have bigger balls than most of the blokes! :o""

Fatcatstu:
Bet small, about 15k hoping to induce or at least squeeze another bit out of him. There is more ways of getting the chips in then smaking half the pot in on the flop. If he is super aggressive as stated then he will prob re raise your 15k, i would flat it and then we can ramp it up on turn?

As james said, i am almost certainly never good enough to fold top set no matter what happens down the streets.

dwh103:
Is it always a 4-bet pre here? Given the Villain"s stats and the stack sizes, smoothing his 3-bet feels like the best way to maximise your value.

Does depend on player dynamics, did you feel he might stack off light vs an UTG 4-bet? If you were later I"d be 4-betting away but from UTG it looks to me like your range gets pretty narrow.

The stacks are shallow enough that you shouldn"t be put in many awkward situations post flop if you call. Pot would be 25k, effective stacks of around 110k - still only need to get value from two streets to get the lot. If you check and he fires, you"re getting as much in as if he smooths your 4-bet. From your description I"d say he doesn"t 5-bet stack off or call the 4-bet often enough to justify it.

For me, the disguise is worth the risk in this particular situation. As played, prefer a 1/4 pot lead or a ship - whatever you"d think he"d do with JJ in that spot in essence.

AMRN:
OK here"s how it played out.....

I went for the line of the weak small donk bet to try and induce a shove by offering apparent fold equity..... I lead out for 12k into the 56k pot, and she snap-folded.

At the time, my railer suggested the small bet was not the optimal play and we debated for a while.... hence posting it here for review.

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